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This is how often I've used my facebook.com email. Guess I'm not that surprised they're turning it off.
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Our IRC chat is archived at https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/today which is also where you can join the chat room from the web page. (You can also join via Slack, we like to give people many options.)
> Most communities won't take the time
We have 5+ years of taking the time to archive the important pieces in the wiki, so take that for what you will. I think it's a sign of the strength of a community if people care enough to do that. -
Email is *one* way for open source communities to communicate. An even better way is what we're doing over at Indie Web Camp. We intentionally have no email list, instead we use IRC (with web and Slack gateways) for day to day discussion, and anything important gets categorized and archived on the wiki. This leads to better organization of information over the long term (have you ever tried to actually go find something in email list archives?) as well as provides a better medium for quick conversation.
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The Hostile Email Landscape (liminality.xyz)
This isn't how the internet is supposed to work. As we continue to consolidate on a few big mail services, it's only going to become more difficult to start new servers.
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> Point of order. I have not made any complaint about the minutes not being
> posted. I would invite you to retract that comment.
You originally wrote "Yesterday there was a -1 and a -0.5. and I think a 0 (minutes would help)" That parenthetical remark looked like a complaint about the minutes not being posted.
> Apache have left the WG in recent times and cited this as a reason.
No, Henry Story left the group. Apache as an organization made no such statement.
> I appreciate that decision, hence my OP to provide a larger context.
You still have not added any additional information that would justify reconsidering the resolution to rename this story. Your original email said "I had already announced I was attempting to implement it, and was told the user stories were frozen." which is literally recapping information that you had already given, not new information. Additionally, the user stories are already frozen, and have been ever since voting ended.
You have had multiple people ask you directly how changing the *name* of the story could possibly affect your implementation, when none of the actual story content is changing, yet you have continued to ignore this request. I would suggest actually adding new information to this discussion if you wish to continue arguing it. -
Melvin,
The minutes were posted on the wiki shortly after the conclusion of yesterday's call. You can always find the link to the minutes from the agenda page. Please check there before complaining the minutes are not posted.
You have been told in the past that it is fine that Tantek is not reading the mailing list. http://socialwg.indiewebcamp.com/irc/social/2015-03-10/line/1426011511341
Additionally from Harry's email last time this came up, "there is no mechanism anywhere in W3C process that can force someone to respond to email except (for now) the Last Call process and Formal Objection process." https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2015Apr/0097.html
Your -1 vote was overridden by the chair because the chair thought your -1 was due to a misunderstanding of the proposal, and you were not on the call to clarify your position. You were invited to join the next call if you have new information to add. That is documented in the minutes here https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-07-28-minutes#override
Your current proposal to re-open the issue of renaming the story is un-founded. You have not provided any new information, which is required in order to re-open an issue. You have blatantly ignored repeated questions asking for clarification about *why* your implementation is affected by renaming the story.
If you would like to contribute to this group, I would suggest adding some information from the SoLiD perspective to the brainstorming document where we are trying to get a sense of how to converge the approaches. So far nobody from the SoLiD perspective has stepped up. https://github.com/w3c-social/Social-APIs-Brainstorming
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I just bought a fax number so I can receive an invoice from someone because his emails aren't coming through. Technology fail.
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Gene Ehrbar
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Feb 12
@aaronpk Do it! Email bankruptcy is *so* freeing… it will change your life… ;-)
@pdxgene Guess I'm not sure how to prevent it from just happening again. One thought is to stop using email: http://aaron.pk/n4Tx1
