Aaron Parecki

Jason Lengstorf ⚡️ https://twitter.com/jlengstorf • Nov 6
Yeah, I love the spirit of WebMentions but the implementation is too high a bar for many (most?) site owners. But maybe a man investment in UX / tooling makes more sense than trying something net new.

Yeah, frankly I don't think an alternative would end up being significantly simpler anyway once you start accounting for the things that are already established in the current ecosystem. There are tools and services now, and libraries, but we always need more!

London, England, GBR • 50°F

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Jason Lengstorf ⚡️ https://twitter.com/jlengstorf • Nov 5
I was just noodling on this. I don’t think I’m the right person to build it, but I wonder what an “RSS feed reader + discussion graph” looks like

- subscribe to RSS
- “reply” to posts by blogging on your own site with a meta tag
- readers use the meta tag to thread discussion

This is basically what we're doing with Webmentions. It's an old post, but surprisingly relevant all of a sudden: https://aaronparecki.com/2018/06/30/11/your-first-webmention

London, England, GBR • 52°F

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Sun, Nov 6, 2022 5:04pm +00:00
Jake Sloan https://twitter.com/jakesloaninak • Nov 6
I wish they would just do away with it. 2x a year and everything gets messed up…

We're so close! Almost got rid of it this year, I'm holding out hope that next November will be the last time change.

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

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Sun, Nov 6, 2022 3:38pm +00:00
eevee ❎ https://twitter.com/eevee • Nov 6
it's interesting but feels far too coarse-grained. maybe masto needs something like public groups of related accounts so you can use those as a foothold instead

Absolutely. There's some in-progress work on this, but I haven't been following it too closely. https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/19059

Sadly the state of things is that until Mastodon itself implements this, it's pretty much a stalled idea in the larger Fediverse.

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

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Sun, Nov 6, 2022 3:36pm +00:00
eevee ❎ https://twitter.com/eevee • Nov 6
if mastodon is doing a piss poor job of conveying this then that is not all these people's fault, but the practical impact is that multiple verified twitter users with large audiences are lying about how mastodon works lol

I've always said the local timeline model of Mastodon was a bad idea. It's directly led to this idea of having to join a particular instance because of the community, and all the fallout from that around trusting the instance admin and such. Those concerns should be separate.

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

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Sun, Nov 6, 2022 3:28pm +00:00
PhotoJoseph https://twitter.com/photojoseph • Nov 6
I realized that looking at your profile, where you have an @ your own server. This ain’t your grandfather’s social network, is it.

Yup, forget about picking an instance, bring your own! #OwnYourData

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

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Sun, Nov 6, 2022 3:25pm +00:00 #ownyourdata
PhotoJoseph https://twitter.com/photojoseph • Nov 6
I have no idea what this thing is. Just signed up to park my name.

heh, well parking your name doesn't really mean anything because there are instances on domains all over the place and you're certainly not going to register on each one! Tho now that I think about it, you should be able to use your own domain for this: https://www.drupal.org/project/activitypub

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

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Sun, Nov 6, 2022 3:13pm +00:00
PhotoJoseph https://twitter.com/photojoseph • Nov 6
Apparently @aaronpk really wanted to follow… 😉

hahaha sorry! Your instance did things sliiiightly different than others, so I was having to test my code in production, which resulted in sending you a lot of these!

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Sun, Nov 6, 2022 3:09pm +00:00
Orie Steele https://twitter.com/OR13b • Nov 5
I reviewed the spec, imo it's a custom JWT format squatting on the branding and work of the W3C... That doesn't mean it's not a great solution to the use case though... It relies on HL7/FHIR for semantics... So it doesn't really need any extensibility model.

yeah I guess that's one way to put it.

Back to the original point though, I would argue that 99.9% of of those examples in the crawl also do not rely on the extensibility model of JSON-LD.

London, England, GBR • 56°F

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Sat, Nov 5, 2022 11:54pm +00:00
Orie Steele https://twitter.com/OR13b • Nov 5
You can implement many "token" schemes without using JSON-LD... If we're really just talking about rebranding tokens to credentials to appeal to a broader base, you don't need a standard to do that imo... You need a marketing department :)

They took all the good parts of Verifiable Credentials and turned it into the SmartHealth spec! https://spec.smarthealth.cards Notice you never need to bring in any JSON-LD library or deal with namespaces or canonicalization, yet it's completely decentralized!

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Sat, Nov 5, 2022 11:48pm +00:00
˗ˏˋ Mark Foster ˎˊ˗ https://twitter.com/mfosterio • Nov 5
@aaronpk There is a movement towards decentralization and openness the value is increasing by demand.

I mean, you don't have to convince me of decentralization and openness. I'm not even tweeting this on twitter, it's coming from my own website, one of many decentralized nodes on the internet.

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Sat, Nov 5, 2022 11:45pm +00:00
Orie Steele https://twitter.com/OR13b • Nov 5
Your point is it's easy to adopt JSON-LD without understanding its value, and a lot of people have done this?... Are you saying it's a bad thing people adopt things they don't understand? If you're are at IETF let's chat IRL.

and yes, I'm at IETF! Let's chat!

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Sat, Nov 5, 2022 11:42pm +00:00
Orie Steele https://twitter.com/OR13b • Nov 5
Your point is it's easy to adopt JSON-LD without understanding its value, and a lot of people have done this?... Are you saying it's a bad thing people adopt things they don't understand? If you're are at IETF let's chat IRL.

I'm saying the LD is irrelevant when most publishers and consumers are ignoring it. It's great the JSON-LD looks mostly like JSON, but IMO the LD part adds very little value.

fwiw I was able to implement vaccine QR code VCs without dealing with the LD part too!

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Sat, Nov 5, 2022 11:42pm +00:00
Orie Steele https://twitter.com/OR13b • Nov 5
https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/da-jsonld

yeah my point stands. The vast majority of publishers publishing JSON-LD on their websites for Google to consume care approximately 0% about the LD part of the JSON-LD, and frankly care about 1% about the JSON part. They just want Google to read the website.

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Sat, Nov 5, 2022 11:34pm +00:00
Orie Steele https://twitter.com/OR13b • Nov 2
JOSE supports authenticity and intention, and is used to power most consumer and enterprise identity. 44% of all websites rely on JSON-LD. Both problems have been solved independently. W3C Verifiable Credentials leverage the best solutions for both problems.

That's quite a claim. Are you talking about the JSON-LD that Google recommends people publish for their rich snippets and such? Because I guarantee you about 99.9% of that is treating it as plain JSON.

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Sat, Nov 5, 2022 11:29pm +00:00
Brett Slatkin https://twitter.com/haxor • Nov 5
Great! @aaronpk would probably know more about the state of things here.

Mastodon actually uses rel=me to show a "verified" badge on links on your profile!

This is also definitely in line with RelMeAuth, and what I implemented on https://indielogin.com, but as an authentication service, not just informational.

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Sat, Nov 5, 2022 9:32pm +00:00
Zach Leatherman https://fediverse.zachleat.com/@zachleat • Nov 5
Well, the export was “successful” from @zachleat@mastodon.social
Only time will tell if the follower import works or not! 😅

I got a follow request from your new site if that's what was supposed to happen! I have no idea how follower import is supposed to work on Mastodon

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Sat, Nov 5, 2022 6:13pm +00:00
Ben Werdmuller https://werd.io/profile/benwerd • Nov 5
I made a commitment to make my website a first-class participant in the fediverse this week. Which, of course, means everyone who uses Known (if they want). Let's see if I get there.

This week(!) Best of luck!

London, England • 55°F

Sat, Nov 5, 2022 6:11pm +00:00
@simon@simonwillison.net https://twitter.com/simonw • Nov 5
I'm paying a company to run an instance for me

I 💯 agree Mastodon would be better if you could bring your own domain without running your own instance. I don't think that's technically infeasible but it looks like no-one has built a Mastodon server with virtual host support yet

They're not quite as easy as setting up a CNAME, but there are two options for that:

https://fed.brid.gy

https://help.micro.blog/t/activitypub/95

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Sat, Nov 5, 2022 2:57pm +00:00
Gabe Perez https://twitter.com/TheGabeditor • Nov 4
It’s fixed now btw. Just tested. Thanks a bunch!

Glad to hear it! Hope I didn't ruin anyone's day with that!

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