Aaron Parecki

@AlaskaAir yeah I think I'm going to do OAK from now on. Wish I could have re-booked that flight to leave earlier tonight from OAK!

@AlaskaAir My flight *to* SFO was 2 hours delayed too. I know it's out of your control but I just want to go home!

Thanks for the suggestion! It would be cool to use the LINK verb.

The problem is that it's way less likely to actually get adoption using the LINK verb. The discovery step adds an opportunity to add a layer of indirection, which lets us separate the server that handles the webmention. While discovery is an extra step, but at the same time it provides a lot of benefits. For example, it wouldn't be possible to have a static HTML site handle the HTTP LINK request, whereas it could delegate to a webmention service by using the link tag. Additionally, some hosting environments may not provide a way to handle the LINK request where a normal POST would work instead.

Because of the benefits and flexibility the discovery step adds, we need to stick with it and can't use the LINK verb as cool as that would be.

@annbass @t Check out http://shwr.me - great HTML presentation framework, not too hard to use and looks great too! #osfw3c

@lidingpku Yes, @tantek captured it here: http://tantek.com/2013/219/t19/osfw3c-contrast-microformats2-cc0-owfa-ogp-schema #osfw3c

Why would I have any interest in schema.org if all I can do is publish my data for Google? #osfw3c

@t So really what this means is I am not allowed to parse schema.org data from others sites? Only Google is allowed to? #osfw3c

@benwerd Agreed for un-related content, but the use cases described in HTTP 2.0 push seem reasonable: http://www.igvita.com/2013/06/12/innovating-with-http-2.0-server-push/ #osfw3c

@lehawes and some are using both! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2013-08-07/line/1375904709 #osfw3c

@lidingpku Yeah, that's been bugging me for a while. I changed the format that shows up in the channel just now.

@lidingpku Yep! We're doing that with the #osfw3c tweets right now, feel free to join #indiewebcamp on irc.freenode.net! IRC logs available at http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2013-08-07

@geekcode huh? no, it was a weird glitch in Delta's system. It forgot to actually issue me a ticket.

@erinjo I used to do exactly that, using a Linksys VOIP Gateway: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FKP55U I think it doesn't work anymore now that Google disabled Gizmo's SIP access though :(

@erinjo Don't think I can help you there. GV can't really work with two different numbers forwarding to the same phone. Also I fixed the shortlinks, thx!

@benwerd oh totally. When someone calls my work phone it rings my desk phone, computer, cell phone, and pebble watch. I would do something about that if I actually got calls more often.

@FarshadNayeri There's a validator tool you use to preview your cards, then you can submit for approval there: https://dev.twitter.com/docs/cards/validation/validator It took a couple weeks for them to approve it.

@FarshadNayeri I may be a bit overzealous in my use of twitter cards. I'll see about scaling it back to only posts that have additional content as well as articles and other long-form content on my site. Thanks!

@benwerd heh, I recently started wearing a #Pebble and every time my phone rings it freaks me out cause my wrist and pocket both buzz!

@FarshadNayeri If Twitter had a field to indicate the canonical URL of a post like App.net does I wouldn't need to put the link at the end. I may also then be more inclined to respect Twitter's length limit. Will take your feedback under consideration though. Thanks!

@FarshadNayeri heh, experimenting, still some glitches. It's nice when my post is longer than Twitter's limit so you can see more inline, but yes it's redundant when they are identical. Check out the #indieweb wiki for more background info: http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE