If you’ve been following the Bridgy and Mastodon drama, consider that many Mastodon users don’t want a bridge that allows Bluesky to federate with Mastodon, but they do want Bluesky to support ActivityPub so Bluesky can… also federate with Mastodon. 😜
@kissane IME there’s a mismatch between Fediverse as a collection of standards and tech and Fediverse as culture and norms- the insistence that Threads implementing ActivityPub “isn’t fediverse” is culture-over-tech, or bridging being antithetical etc. it’s gonna keep rearing its head as the people who desire the scale/ergo of twitter etc try to use/extend fediverse tech to do so and clash with the people who are very happy with the current scale/reach and see it as a feature.
@aaronpk I am certainly not the first one who noticed that the former champion of use-your-own-server and #Indieweb has as his three links only corporate monosilos, right?
I started a FEP to define an #OAuth 2.0 profile for the #ActivityPub API (“c2s”):
https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/162
I’d appreciate any feedback or support. I’ve begun implementing this profile, and I think it’s testing out pretty well.
@evan no, I mean, I don't see why it'd make sense to define a custom profile of OAuth 2.0 when OIDC exists and we could just use it?
What does defining a custom profile really give us? Our authentication needs can't be that unique, can they?
One core difference between the fediverse and the AT Protocol seems to be that AT decouples many key building blocks – identity, moderation, ranking algorithms, even your own data to some degree – from your server. The fediverse, on the other hand, ties them all to your server and sees that as a desirable feature.
The fediverse says, choose a server that you identify with as an individual, with admins who moderate according to your values, and a local timeline that you like reading.
The AT Protocol, on the other hand says sure, choose all of those, but independently from your server, and keep those choices if/when you migrate to a new server.
Interestingly, I don’t think much of this is really driven by ActivityPub itself except identity. Third party AP moderation tools could easily be built, and probably have been. Same with clients that rank your feed with custom algorithms. This seems like more of a cultural difference, a difference of values and philosophy about how social networking should work.
A bit confused as to how it interacts with #fediverse - rival paradigms? Interoperable? Just totally different things? #indieweb
@aaronpk , is this a "real" Mastodon instance just for you or a custom implementation?