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  • Simon Willison https://twitter.com/simonw   •   Nov 19
    This seems to contradict the spec - https://github.com/simonw/datasette-indieauth/issues/21#issuecomment-730485391
    Aaron Parecki
    That's for the final profile URL. The user can enter something different at the start, and if that contains a username component then the trick works.
    Portland, Oregon • 46°F
    Thu, Nov 19, 2020 8:25am -08:00
  • Blaine Cook https://twitter.com/blaine   •   Nov 19
    I don't agree that it's completely glossed over - there is a registration protocol, it's just not widely implemented. The intent could be better stated, for sure, but I think IA's emphasis is too far the other way. My ideal is something in-between IndieAuth and OIDC, I think! 😊
    Aaron Parecki
    take a look at my activitypub conference talk, starting at 11:50, I address the UX aspect of it here: https://aaronparecki.com/2020/09/22/25/activitypub-oauth-2-1#t=710

    also happy to set up a time to chat about this instead! I think we have a lot of similar goals!
    Portland, Oregon • 47°F
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    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 10:26pm -08:00
  • Blaine Cook https://twitter.com/blaine   •   Nov 19
    My goal is to enable secure, simple federated identity. Authentication is a core bit of functionality in that regard. Obviously supporting non-corporate identities is critical, but forcing everyone to be 'indie' is a mistake, I think.
    Aaron Parecki
    nobody said "force". my goal is to *enable* indie identities, something that is pretty much completely glossed over by the current OIDC ecosystem.
    Portland, Oregon • 47°F
    1 like 1 reply
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 10:17pm -08:00
  • Mugwump https://twitter.com/ozaed   •   Nov 19
    I use DNSSEC since 6+ years, while I have seen many auth protocols come and go. And 'IndieAuth' I first heard today.
    Aaron Parecki
    ah yes, the "this is the first I've heard about it" argument sure is a solid one
    Portland, Oregon • 47°F
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 10:15pm -08:00
  • bradfitz https://twitter.com/bradfitz   •   Nov 18
    I literally just sprayed coffee all over my monitor at your comment. Took the wrong moment to have a sip.
    Aaron Parecki
    I appreciate the commitment to prove this with a photo and am also very curious about what's in your bookmark toolbar and open tabs
    Portland, Oregon • 46°F
    1 like
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 9:33pm -08:00
  • patrick. https://twitter.com/imPatrickT   •   Nov 18
    yup and loading from Lock Screen is a deal breaker for me.
    Aaron Parecki
    *deal maker. agreed.
    Portland, Oregon • 46°F
    1 like
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 8:34pm -08:00
  • Deity Microphones 🎙️ https://twitter.com/deitymicrophone   •   Nov 18
    Seems like YouTube is changing their service terms AGAIN.... It's that second bullet point that should be interesting...

    What are your thoughts on the new changes to the YouTube platform?
    Aaron Parecki
    I always assumed that was already the case. Is it not?
    Portland, Oregon • 46°F
    2 likes
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 8:33pm -08:00
  • Blaine Cook https://twitter.com/blaine   •   Nov 19
    😢 @aaronpk knows my stance on this well - domain-based auth is exclusionary and confusing to users. IndieAuth should just use email addresses, even if it's not doesn't use webfinger and just does s/@([^.*]\..*$/\1/ with the address.
    Aaron Parecki
    Email addresses *are* domain-based auth. I think you’re conflating two different parts of the system. In IndieAuth, the canonical user identifier doesn’t have to be the thing the user enters in a login prompt. This is also true for almost every other authentication system.
    Portland, Oregon • 45°F
    1 reply
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 8:28pm -08:00
  • Simon Willison https://twitter.com/simonw   •   Nov 19
    Thanks, filed an issue https://github.com/simonw/datasette-indieauth/issues/21
    Aaron Parecki
    To be clear, I’m not sure this is a *good* idea, and it also requires a bit of code running at the web server of the root domain, but it does work.
    Portland, Oregon • 45°F
    3 replies
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 8:25pm -08:00
  • Aaron Parecki https://aaronparecki.com/   •   Nov 18
    I’ll admit it’s a bit of a “hack”. The trick is “aaron@parecki.com” is a URL because if you assume the http scheme then you get http://aaron@parecki.com which is a username but no password with HTTP basic auth. The server can switch what it returns based on that username.
    Aaron Parecki
    As a client developer you have to: 1) follow the spec by assuming “http” if no scheme is entered, and 2) allow the user-entered URL to contain a username component.
    Portland, Oregon • 45°F
    5 replies
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 8:21pm -08:00
  • Simon Willison https://twitter.com/simonw   •   Nov 19
    I thought that was valid with RelMeAuth but not IndieAuth - how can I get that working as an IndieAuth client?
    Aaron Parecki
    I’ll admit it’s a bit of a “hack”. The trick is “aaron@parecki.com” is a URL because if you assume the http scheme then you get http://aaron@parecki.com which is a username but no password with HTTP basic auth. The server can switch what it returns based on that username.
    Portland, Oregon • 45°F
    1 reply
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 8:20pm -08:00
  • Blaine Cook https://twitter.com/blaine   •   Nov 19
    In the meantime, IndieAuth is, imho, a step backwards. OAuth/OIDC sign-in with login_hint works *great*; the lack of auto-/no-registration / a public key version is a real bummer, though.
    Aaron Parecki
    This one I’m really confused on, and we should probably chat about it to clear things up. IMO OIDC is more of a barrier here because the default is that clients need to register. With IndieAuth there is no expectation of client registration at all.
    Portland, Oregon • 45°F
    1 reply
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 8:18pm -08:00
  • Blaine Cook https://twitter.com/blaine   •   Nov 19
    😢 @aaronpk knows my stance on this well - domain-based auth is exclusionary and confusing to users. IndieAuth should just use email addresses, even if it's not doesn't use webfinger and just does s/@([^.*]\..*$/\1/ with the address.
    Aaron Parecki
    There is no obligation that you have to register your own domain for IndieAuth to work. I’ve talked about this at ActivityPub Conference showing how they can use IndieAuth to enable a standards-based app ecosystem for ActivityPub/Mastodon apps. That of course uses shared domains.
    Portland, Oregon • 45°F
    2 likes 1 repost 1 reply
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 8:16pm -08:00
  • Simon Willison https://twitter.com/simonw   •   Nov 19
    I'm intrigued by the IndieAuth thing where you can input a domain but your final identifier is a page specific to you on that domain - seems like it could help avoid users having to register their own domain or remember their full URL
    Aaron Parecki
    so it turns out this works. I can type in “aaron@parecki.com” in an indieauth prompt and it works. because that is a URL.
    Portland, Oregon • 45°F
    2 replies
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 8:15pm -08:00
  • Dennis Crowley 🇺🇸 https://twitter.com/dens   •   Nov 18
    "This is an urgent message for the vehicle owner..."

    How do we not have the technology to stop this shit?
    Aaron Parecki
    a side benefit of not owning a car is being able to completely ignore these without even a second thought 😂
    Portland, Oregon • 45°F
    1 like
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 6:59pm -08:00
  • Defrag https://twitter.com/defrag   •   Nov 17
    Alright, I'm taking recs on home-cameras that aren't Nest. Because the quality of Nest just consistently degrades.
    Aaron Parecki
    I use Unifi cameras cause the whole thing runs locally and records to a pile of hard drives in my closet
    Portland, Oregon • 46°F
    2 likes
    Wed, Nov 18, 2020 4:54pm -08:00
  • Ben Philippe https://twitter.com/gohomeben   •   Nov 17
    A 12-YO INTRODUCED ME TO HER ZOOM CLASS AS "THIS IS BEN. HE'S VERIFIED ON TWITTER WITHOUT A LOT OF FOLLOWERS." END OF BIO.

    THAT'S A WRAP ON 2020. I'LL BE IN BED. LEAVE SANDWICHES OUTSIDE.
    Aaron Parecki
    woo welcome to the verified-without-a-lot-of-followers-club 🎉
    Portland, Oregon • 50°F
    1 like 1 reply
    Tue, Nov 17, 2020 8:41pm -08:00
  • idiot_girl https://twitter.com/idiot_girl   •   Nov 17
    Lol it’s ok. I’m old too and my knee jerk reaction/gun-to-my-head reaction would also be MySQL and PHP mainly because that’s how I learned to code - by ripping apart php/mysql powered cms and e-commerce playforms. I know it inside and out.
    Aaron Parecki
    yeah exactly, and users of this CMS are going to care exactly zero what fancy tech it's built with, so it's more important that it works well than it's built with the latest JS framework or the blockchain or whatever sorry do I sound bitter? 😇
    Portland, Oregon • 56°F
    2 likes 1 reply
    Tue, Nov 17, 2020 3:36pm -08:00
  • idiot_girl https://twitter.com/idiot_girl   •   Nov 17
    If you were going to write a web app for content management (basic user access plus create, read, update, delete) what would you use to power the database? What would you use to build the logic interface?
    Aaron Parecki
    probably still PHP + MySQL, likely using Laravel, but a server-rendered UI with maybe a hint of javascript for some nice interactions. I'm old.
    Portland, Oregon • 56°F
    9 likes 4 replies
    Tue, Nov 17, 2020 2:43pm -08:00
  • flaki https://twitter.com/slsoftworks   •   Nov 17
    So finally my ATEM Mini Pro has arrived yesterday and YES it is exactly as wonderful as the fables would have it! 🤩
    Aaron Parecki
    nice greenscreen setup too!
    Portland, Oregon • 55°F
    2 likes
    Tue, Nov 17, 2020 10:56am -08:00
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Hi, I'm Aaron Parecki, Director of Identity Standards at Okta, and co-founder of IndieWebCamp. I maintain oauth.net, write and consult about OAuth, and participate in the OAuth Working Group at the IETF. I also help people learn about video production and livestreaming. (detailed bio)

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