Aaron Parecki

Larry Sanger https://twitter.com/lsanger • Feb 20
Suppose I don’t want to copy anything to Twitter, but I want to let people who are on Twitter read my microposts on Twitter. They’d need a browser plug-in to do that. This way, we help them seek beyond that ecosystem and enter a broader, encompassing network.

Yeah I do like that idea! I might have to experiment with something like that. All the pieces are already in place to have that work with the IndieWeb building blocks too!

Chicago, Illinois • 31°F

1 reply

Wed, Feb 20, 2019 10:16am -06:00
Larry Sanger https://twitter.com/lsanger • Feb 20
I’m quite aware that these are not new ideas. Lots of people have been talking about this sort of thing for years. It’s cool IndieWeb has made a start. Pretty exciting! I would like to learn more. Have you worked on my (4) and (5) at all, to make old nets forward-compatible?

This way none of my content really lives on twitter since it's all on my site. Twitter is just a channel for me to have conversations with people who don't yet post on their own websites.

Chicago, Illinois • 31°F

8 replies

Wed, Feb 20, 2019 10:11am -06:00
Larry Sanger https://twitter.com/lsanger • Feb 20
I’m quite aware that these are not new ideas. Lots of people have been talking about this sort of thing for years. It’s cool IndieWeb has made a start. Pretty exciting! I would like to learn more. Have you worked on my (4) and (5) at all, to make old nets forward-compatible?

Yeah basically 4 and 5 are covered by the idea of POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE but it works the opposite direction.

I'm writing this on my website, and it gets automatically copied to Twitter. I also am reading your replies in Monocle, my reader app.

Chicago, Illinois, USA • 31°F

2 likes 5 replies

Wed, Feb 20, 2019 10:10am -06:00
Larry Sanger https://twitter.com/lsanger • Feb 20
I would love to read an analysis of how well this project satisfies the vision of a decentralized social media architecture. I might not be able to get around to doing such an analysis myself for a while.

Here's a diagram explaining the architecture of a typical interaction lifecycle. Each person is using different apps and different software for their websites, a key aspect to a truly decentralized and robust network.

Chicago, Illinois, USA • 31°F

4 likes 4 replies

Wed, Feb 20, 2019 9:55am -06:00
Everipedia https://twitter.com/Everipedia • Feb 20
hey aaron! you should create the indieweb page on everipedia, we can tweet it!

hmm I don't think I understand, there's already a page but it appears to be a copy of the Wikipedia page, which isn't actually a very good description https://everipedia.org/wiki/lang_en/IndieWeb/

Chicago, Illinois • 31°F

1 like 1 reply

Wed, Feb 20, 2019 9:35am -06:00
Larry Sanger https://twitter.com/lsanger • Feb 20
Neat! Do you have to use http://indieweb.com in order to “join the movement”? If so, it’s not decentralized. And it also needs independent standards, or it won’t have the ultimate effect—it’d remain a front end to existing services. Anyway, I will definitely read up on this.

Those specs are arguably not the best introduction to the concepts which is why I linked the blog post instead 😊

Chicago, Illinois • 31°F

1 reply

Wed, Feb 20, 2019 9:33am -06:00
Larry Sanger https://twitter.com/lsanger • Feb 20
Neat! Do you have to use http://indieweb.com in order to “join the movement”? If so, it’s not decentralized. And it also needs independent standards, or it won’t have the ultimate effect—it’d remain a front end to existing services. Anyway, I will definitely read up on this.

You don't need to explain decentralization to me ;-) I am literally the author of several W3C specs that are being used to build decentralized social networks!

https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/
https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/
https://www.w3.org/TR/websub/
https://www.w3.org/TR/indieauth/

Chicago, Illinois • 31°F

4 likes 1 reply

Wed, Feb 20, 2019 9:32am -06:00
Larry Sanger https://twitter.com/lsanger • Feb 20
I think I’ve figured out the broad strategy for how to decentralize social media. How do we get people using new, better networks? Here’s how!

My latest: https://larrysanger.org/2019/02/how-to-decentralize-social-media-a-brief-sketch/ #socialmedia #facebook #twitter #foss #blockchain
@Everipedia
#decentralization #privacy

You should come check out what we're doing on the #IndieWeb, it's basically exactly this, built with many W3C standards! Here's a writeup about my current social media experience, I stopped using Twitter ages ago:

https://aaronparecki.com/2018/04/20/46/indieweb-reader-my-new-home-on-the-internet

Chicago, Illinois, USA • 29°F

13 likes 1 repost 5 replies 1 mention

Wed, Feb 20, 2019 7:13am -06:00 #indieweb
Christopher Lemmer Webber https://octodon.social/@cwebber • Feb 20
@aaronpk user freedom, then? :)

"User" has its own set of problems too, like connotations with drug use, which is particularly a problem when we're talking about making things that are alternatives to Facebook/Twitter which are known to create addictive behavior.

It's also not a term from an individual's perspective. People don't think of themselves as users of software, only the software authors do.

Deerfield, Illinois • 30°F

Wed, Feb 20, 2019 5:48am -06:00
frank87 https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/@frank87 • Feb 19
@aaronpk It's about who gets to you. Facebook decides who gets into your bubble if you are using Facebook. Three words: control your bubble.

I guess that sounds like a different problem. That's definitely also an issue worth solving, and "control your bubble" is cute. I don't think that means "own your data" shouldn't also be a goal though.

Deerfield, Illinois • 29°F

1 reply

Tue, Feb 19, 2019 8:47pm -06:00
Ryan Kao https://twitter.com/ryan_kao • Feb 18
Finally finished my @DJIGlobal Osmo Pocket review.. super proud of this one! Go take a peak 🥳 https://youtu.be/JpXEE9761TM

I was watching your video and I was like "hey I know that coffee shop", "I recognize that building!" Nicely done! Would love to chat when I'm back in town!

Deerfield, Illinois, USA • 28°F

1 like 1 reply

Tue, Feb 19, 2019 8:25pm -06:00
http://tantek.com/2019/051/e1/homebrew-website-club-sf

My morning flight got cancelled and I got moved to a flight that arrives after HWC ends. 😔

~~I get in to SF Wednesday late afternoon so it's possible I will be there!~~

Deerfield, Illinois, USA • 28°F

Tue, Feb 19, 2019 5:00pm -06:00
Christopher Lemmer Webber https://octodon.social/@cwebber • Feb 19
I hate the "own your data" meme in the decentralized social web. A friend of mine pointed out how useless the phrase is a few years ago and I agree. "Ownership" sounds an awful lot like digital "property", which is nonsense when moving from physical to digital stuff because copying doesn't destroy the original. The path you go down there is the path to artificial constraints like DRM. Yikes!
We should be talking about user autonomy instead. That's a much better meme.

Interesting, but destroying the original or having only one copy isn't really relevant to me, so I fail to see the argument here. I use it as a shorthand for keeping your data in a place you control, while being able to move it elsewhere if you choose. It's just a nice shorthand. If you have a suggestion for a better three-word phrase I'm all ears but "user autonomy" sounds like robots.

Deerfield, Illinois • 29°F

1 like 2 replies

Tue, Feb 19, 2019 3:28pm -06:00
Alex Martin https://twitter.com/alexbuzzbee • Feb 18
I've set up #IndieAuth on my personal site. Now on the two sites that support it I can log in using myself as an IDP.

Don't worry, it gets more fun once you start getting into using Micropub apps! https://indieweb.org/Micropub/Clients

Portland, Oregon, USA • 40°F

Sun, Feb 17, 2019 7:04pm -08:00
Kevin Marks https://twitter.com/kevinmarks • Feb 15
If you want a modern equivalent, npm install nunjucks https://mozilla.github.io/nunjucks/templating.html#include

I really don't

Portland, Oregon • 42°F

1 like

Fri, Feb 15, 2019 10:32am -08:00
Alexander Christiaan Jacob https://twitter.com/ACJ • Feb 15
I guess that’s true. I don’t recall ever needing to include the same piece of code “zero to many times” in my 20 years of writing php though. 😁

Guess you haven't been writing PHP long enough then 😉

It's about including HTML templates, not code. #ExplainingTheJoke

Portland, Oregon, USA • 42°F

1 like 3 replies

Fri, Feb 15, 2019 9:53am -08:00 #explainingthejoke
Feb 14
I don’t like it when anybody refers to a married partner as “The Wife” or “The Husband.” Is there an argument for this usage that makes it endearing?

ugh for real! It irks me every time I hear this. I don't have a good explanation and I don't know why they do it, so I don't say anything though.

Portland, Oregon • 39°F

Thu, Feb 14, 2019 8:46pm -08:00
Jacky Alcine https://v2.jacky.wtf • Feb 14
Taking this into consideration as I’m working on post type discovery.

Wow that's a really old post! The "future work" section is largely complete too!

• "Collect information on current services' APIs for creating different types of content" -- this became Micropub
• "Define an API spec that could reasonably be adopted by clients like Wordpress, Path, Instagram, or open-source mobile apps" -- this became Micropub and Microsub
• "Implement filtered feeds on my website that include posts with different content types" -- this exists too now!

Portland, Oregon • 41°F

1 like 1 reply

Thu, Feb 14, 2019 8:05pm -08:00
SwiftOnSecurity https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity • Feb 15
The danger isn’t that machines will become as intelligent as humans. That in itself is not a threat postulate.

The risk is we were wrong in our anthropocentric assessment – machines didn’t need to be intelligent at all.

Mirrors do not need to think to make us hate what we see.

that was weird

Portland, Oregon • 41°F

5 likes 1 repost

Thu, Feb 14, 2019 5:28pm -08:00
Alexander Christiaan Jacob https://twitter.com/ACJ • Feb 14
Always `require_once`, but yeah sure.

Not if you're using it to include components multiple times on the page! #oldschool

Portland, Oregon, USA • 41°F

5 likes 3 replies

Thu, Feb 14, 2019 5:22pm -08:00 #oldschool

older