Aaron Parecki

sebomoto https://twitter.com/sebo • May 5
Just being curious: why do you want to use/ are using gmail in the first place? I know you for your expertise in indie web and the like.

Fair question. Primarily: email != web, and the effort to self-host email is far greater than that of websites. Part of why I'm so frustrated with this situation is I had a good setup going where I am using my own domain as my email, it just happens to be powered by Gmail.

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Mon, May 4, 2020 9:50pm -07:00
jk https://twitter.com/karabaic • May 5
Hmm. What if you do ssl instead of tls over 465?

Same authentication failed message. I've tried every combination of TLS/SSL and port number in that list.

They made some breaking change this morning, and rolled it back, but apparently didn't roll it back far enough.

https://twitter.com/gmail/status/1257520623145947137

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Mon, May 4, 2020 9:18pm -07:00
Aaron Parecki https://aaronparecki.com/ • May 4
This is Gmail itself though. Also Mail.app now goes through the Google OAuth flow to set it up so it wouldn't even be testing the same thing. That's why I went and found an SMTP client in PHP and tried sending an email through that and it worked fine.

so that tells me it's a problem with @Gmail's SMTP client talking to Gmail's SMTP server

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Mon, May 4, 2020 9:15pm -07:00
jk https://twitter.com/karabaic • May 5
http://Mail.app lets you turn on verbose logging in connection doctor, not sure if this app does…

This is Gmail itself though. Also Mail.app now goes through the Google OAuth flow to set it up so it wouldn't even be testing the same thing. That's why I went and found an SMTP client in PHP and tried sending an email through that and it worked fine.

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Mon, May 4, 2020 9:15pm -07:00
jk https://twitter.com/karabaic • May 5
Did you try changing the port to 465? 587 is supposedly for nonssl-only, but can be upgraded with a starttls command. It could they’re not accepting auth on 587 anymore because of some screwy thing around auth before the starttls.

465 + TLS results in "Couldn't reach server. Please double-check the server and port number."

587 + TLS from my PHP script works fine.

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Mon, May 4, 2020 9:12pm -07:00
Aaron Parecki https://twitter.com/aaronpk • May 5
I'm still having trouble. This works when sending email from a script, but Gmail can't talk to Gmail's own SMTP servers right now using the same account info.

so far I have:

• changed my password
• reset my two-factor-auth
• deleted and re-added this account in Gmail
• tried every combination of TLS and port number

I can send email via SMTP from a small script, I just can't get Gmail to send via SMTP between accounts.

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Mon, May 4, 2020 9:09pm -07:00
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Joshua McKenty https://twitter.com/jmckenty • May 5
Are you seriously claiming that twitter invented social media?

Cause I was working full time in social media before twitter started. Or did I misunderstand you?

Depends on your definition of social media: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media#History

According to that, none of us were even alive at the origins of social media.

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Mon, May 4, 2020 8:03pm -07:00
Derek Featherstone https://twitter.com/feather

I dunno who needs to hear this now, but for the LOVE OF THE WEB, will you please stop implementing JS/CSS that disable text selection on your site or app?

I know you probably think there's a good reason, but there just isn't.

Send your product managers my way. I'll fight them.

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Joshua McKenty https://twitter.com/jmckenty • May 4
Social media was designed for folks to tell their friends what they were up to and what bands they like.

hey maybe listen to the guy who was literally there building it from the beginning?

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rabble https://twitter.com/rabble • May 4
That's a very good question, it was still online when i looked a few years ago, but now i can't find it.

oddly the audio download link links to a URL that redirects to archive.org which then says it’s not found

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Mon, May 4, 2020 7:54pm -07:00
rabble https://twitter.com/rabble

Social media ***was*** intentionally designed to give a voice to the voiceless in the absence of actual, functioning democracy. Capitalism reshaped it and took it away from its' original designs.

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Mon, May 4, 2020 6:33pm +00:00 (liked on Mon, May 4, 2020 7:51pm -07:00)
Aaron Hockley https://twitter.com/ahockley

Writing a blog post about Flickr because apparently I live in 2008.

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📷 PhotoJoseph 🎥 https://twitter.com/photojoseph • May 5
Is there a way to make FaceTime NOT ring on a Mac, but still have it logged in so I can place outgoing calls on it?

Phone calls too plz. When I get a call now, no less than five devices around me light up and make noises.

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Mon, May 4, 2020 7:26pm -07:00
Gary https://twitter.com/every_daydad

Make a whole bunch of videos and hone your workflow into a knife edge.

I don’t do fancy edits, and I have everything set up and ready to go so just a flick of a couple switches and I’m good to go.

Portland, Oregon • 66°F

Tue, May 5, 2020 12:07am +00:00 (liked on Mon, May 4, 2020 5:35pm -07:00)
Gary https://twitter.com/every_daydad

Very rough estimate
1-2 hours thumbnail
1-2 hours script
30 minutes recording
1-2 hours editing

Portland, Oregon • 67°F

Tue, May 5, 2020 12:05am +00:00 (liked on Mon, May 4, 2020 5:21pm -07:00)
Gary https://twitter.com/every_daydad • May 5
Make a whole bunch of videos and hone your workflow into a knife edge.

I don’t do fancy edits, and I have everything set up and ready to go so just a flick of a couple switches and I’m good to go.

I’m about 75% of the way to having a permanent recording setup in place, it’s already saved me time even tho it’s not perfect.

I still struggle with how scripted the dialogue should be. The less scripted the more editing. The more scripted, the worse the final result.

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Mon, May 4, 2020 5:11pm -07:00
Gary https://twitter.com/every_daydad • May 5
Oh no, 90% of the work is done before I hit record, that means editing is super easy.

TELL ME MORE

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Mon, May 4, 2020 5:04pm -07:00
Aaron Parecki https://aaronparecki.com/ • May 4
me after voting, seeing 100% “Be Responsible” response: WOW EVERYBODY AGREES

me, 2 seconds later: oh wait, I’m the only one who voted so far

also what voodoo do you use that allows you to start filming a video the night before it’ll be released?? you must really have your post-production workflow down!

I tend to spend 3x more time editing than filming.

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Mon, May 4, 2020 5:02pm -07:00

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